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Dave Moore is one half of the award-winning and hugely popular radio duo, Dermot & Dave, who you’ll hear every weekday on Today FM. Having never set foot in a radio studio before, Dave’s first job was the high-profile Breakfast show on 98FM. After 12 years of huge success, the show has since made the big move to the national airwaves, to lunchtimes on Today FM, and now sits in the highly-coveted 9am-12pm slot. Here, the show reaches a huge audience in Ireland every day. With every radio award possible, double-platinum comedy albums, World Records, a number one hit for Euro 2016 and a sold-out comedy tour, Dave’s radio career has been a stellar a success.
Pat Moore is the Chadwicks Group Category Director with full purchasing responsibility. Pat has worked in the building materials sector for the past 26 years. He began his career in Atlantic Homecare and Woodies before moving to the merchanting side of the business with Heiton Buckley and Chadwicks. Pat has an MSc in Business from the IMI and has recently completed a Professional Diploma in eCommerce from UCD.
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This week on under construction with Chadwicks
Dave Moore 0:05
I love DIY I love doing it and I love building things and I'm competent and confident in my abilities to do it. But this was a brand new beast to me Look I put down decks or doing it this way with the plastic pedestals the aluminium Joyce was a real
Pat Moore 0:19
challenge. It's a lot of people in this sector here in the machining sector, but even the best to try and offset as many price increases as possible. But this is a global situation. It's not just an Irish situation or even the UK situation. The Americans are taking us into a lot of a product that's already Chinese and that is really caused a lot of problems and it's putting a lot of pressure on pricing. seatbelts,
check your mirrors, volume. The under construction podcast with Asian power and Frank cook starts. Now.
Aidan Power 0:50
Coming up, we'll be chatting today FM's Dave more about his recent outdoor living project and finding out if he can give MacGyver a run for his money with his Construction Skills. Plus Chadwick category Director patmore talks to us about the industry post lockdown supply issues and the upcoming summer season. And if you have a joke that everyone needs to hear, you can send it to us on voice note on WhatsApp, and you'll find our number in the show description. I'm Aiden, he's Fred and for many lockdown has brought about the opportunity to learn new skills. Fred, did you discover any hidden talents good or bad about yourself over this past year?
Fred Cooke 1:26
A really good scale. I surprised myself this lockdown I painted two rooms.
Aidan Power 1:31
So what have you painted the Sistine Chapel in your gaff?
Fred Cooke 1:34
Not so much. No, no, no, it's more fun golf now it's more abstract.
Aidan Power 1:40
Is that mean there's patches on the wall?
Fred Cooke 1:42
You call the patches? I call them arch. Lucha it
Aidan Power 1:44
is lots of patches because man Fred well on this week's podcast we are looking at outdoor living projects. Here is Chadwicks customer Nikki mcentee, who's from Malinga. She's going to tell us about a pergola She recently completed in her back garden in a very unique way.
Hey there, I just wanted to tell you about DIY that myself and my husband took undertaken in our backyard. And a few weeks ago, we're sitting out on Easter Sunday, and the day was fabulous and glorious. And there was only one small problem. Our gigantic shed was taken over most of the space and the sunlight in the garden. So we went on Don Dale sold the shed, and we were left with a blank canvas of concrete. So we got a carpenter to come in and he built us a pergola. I think I'm saying that rice, and that was beautiful. We painted the charcoal, and then we were left with concrete floor and we couldn't afford to get back in our tiles. So I got stencils, nicely paint and I stencils, Moroccan style tiles onto the ground, and the transformation was fabulous. But my back, my shoulders, every part of my body was aching because there's a tree down on my hands and knees painting at all. When you look at the photographs, and you're sitting out there now enjoying a nice glass of cool white wine in the evenings. It's well worth this. So just let you know, my little DIY, thanks. This is Nikki.
Aidan Power 3:15
That's great stuff. Nikki, if you look at the podcast picture on your screen right now you can see just how good Nikki's handiwork is. how impressed Are you Fred?
Fred Cooke 3:23
I was so impressed by I'd like the detail of each title. It's so fantastic. And that you know, I'd love to be there myself. It reminds me being on holidays just out wide, beautiful toe that you do see, Joe, she's created a stage for self as well. You could have String Quartet stereo, you could have garden speeches, you could have a gig. I might even come over myself. I haven't gig them all and Gary out. So there's an opportunity there if he's wondering, thank
Aidan Power 3:44
you. Nikki's very own stage, it really is impressive at the stencilling is not only a novel and clever way to do it, but obviously a cheaper way than buying Moroccan tiles.
Fred Cooke 3:54
I can feel the heat of a holiday even looking at them. I'd love to walk along them on my bare feet and feel like I'm on holidays. Now granted, she does live on wall and guard so there won't be much heat from the times. But I can imagine that once I'm walking along with
Aidan Power 4:06
Fred and his bare feet, picturing himself in Malinga or Marrakech perhaps. Well, if you have a construction project that you want to share with us, you can get in touch our contact details are in the podcast description. Now, Fred, when it comes to the back garden, you don't have a shed, right?
Fred Cooke 4:23
No, I don't have a shed and I need to make it as quick as I can. Because I need a bit of headspace. I need my own time and I've got three main things that I'm going to have in my shed. Okay, so the first thing is Aiden, it needs to be soundproof. Right. And that's not that's not just not just because I want to be sitting in silence. It's because I don't want my neighbours on my family knowing that I'm a big take that time to thought to myself, I want a pool table as well because I think pool is great. And I don't know because I live so far out at the moment. If If I will have many friends to come over and play pool with me so I might just have a pool. table with the same colours for one set of balls. Okay, this
Aidan Power 5:04
is getting sadder. What's your third thing?
Fred Cooke 5:06
Just Yeah, I'd really want to learn more because the only time we get to sit down yet I'm still working.
Aidan Power 5:13
If we like a man on the job, even if you're even if you're half asleep, right, so you want the proper loan where you want the right
Fred Cooke 5:19
exactly, I read a great loan more with a with a low CD rack as well. Nice CDs I can play my take that Greatest Hits while I'm on the lawn as well.
Aidan Power 5:28
All right, Fred, well, thank you for sharing. I do really help you break out the community money and get that shed someday. Now if you are looking for ideas for a customer's back garden, you can take a look at Chadwicks 2021. outdoor living brochure. There are loads of great ideas in there. No cardboard cutouts of Fred or Gary Barlow, though,
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Aidan Power 5:51
And now he's a master builder that loves any opportunity to crank out the right tool for the job aids radios answer to MacGyver. It's today a man's Dave more Dave, welcome to the podcast.
Dave Moore 6:00
Thanks very much for having me, guys. Good to talk to you.
Aidan Power 6:02
It's a pleasure. We've been oogling ogling over your deck pics on social media recently. You are a fan of posting many.
Dave Moore 6:10
Yeah, just make sure you pronounce that correctly. I didn't get accused. When I came back into work after the weekend of building it that like Hey, stop sending me deck pics. Yeah, it's, you've got to be careful. But yeah, it's you know, it's just it's worked out really well. And it's something that needed upgrading. And with my partnership with Chadwicks I was able to do it and it worked out great.
Fred Cooke 6:35
So was it a lockdown idea. Dave was it something to
Pat Moore 6:40
do you know what it's it's one of those
Dave Moore 6:42
things that's been on our minds for what we started did a lot of upgrades during the lockdown that kind of spurt certainly the first lockdown Fred, were like, We knew we were spending a lot of time at home. And we knew that the time we know what we were aware, we were experiencing unbelievable weather, if you remember the first lockdown was absolutely ridiculous. So what we decided to do was do bits and pieces in the garden, we bought some furniture, we kind of you know, planted some stuff and move things around. And I had done some stuff in the garden before I'd built a playroom, and a shed and all that kind of stuff. So it was like, what do we need to do, and one of the things my wife always wanted was to roof, the decking area. So we live near the sea, we've got lovely west facing garden. And so from that point of view, we're really lucky in the way that it can, it can get us on all day. So she didn't want to, you know, cover the the decking in something that was would make that the area dark. So we've come up with this idea of using clear polycarbonate and we roofs that back in November did that. Just to give you an idea, there are four sheets of polycarbonate on the roof. And each one of them weighs 75 kilos. So it's a sizable piece of work to get them up there and for them to stay there at. And then it was like when we came to do the deck. It was like, Well, why the hell have I just put a 400 kilo deck or afford to get a roof on our deck. And now I have to try and rebuild the deck underneath it. So it presented a fair few challenges posed. But I got done with a bit of budget here and there. And all of a sudden we're finished.
Aidan Power 8:13
show how much of the project that is turned out so beautifully. How much of it was was your your mind? but also your hands at work, Dave? Oh, yeah, I
Dave Moore 8:25
mean, it's, it's a bit of both. And I'll be honest with you. And the way I did it was there's a couple of ways you can build any deck. Like traditionally, you'd know that you build a subframe and you ruined the boards across the subframe your deck is stolen, right? Then you can decide you want to put up handrails or you know, whatever you want steps and whatever the composite decking is I suppose the genius of it is a it's made from recycled materials, you're doing your bit there. And but it also hasn't requires almost no looking after like one of the things about having a softball deck is you're constantly, maybe not every year, but certainly over two years, you're sending us your varnishing at your painting and doing whatever you're there's upkeep involved, and the composite kind of removes that, because the material is just, it's designed to kind of stay true to what it is when you put it down for a long time. But the consideration I had to make in my brain beforehand was do I put a composite top like composite boards down on on either the existing or a new sub frame because obviously with an old deck like we had that one there about 15 years ago, so it's been a long time since I've seen underneath it. But I just decided in the end I'd love to put it down on top of a more permanent base so that the subframe didn't outlive or sorry that the boards didn't outlive the subframe and I ended up having to take them all off rebuilding subframe and 10 years and putting the boards back down. So I went with the plastic pedestals and aluminium joists model which I'll be honest with you required a lot of brain power aid. It is not the The first time you do it, there's a lot to get your head around once it's done. Like I could knock up a composite deck that way now, you know, in half the time it took me to do the first one, if that makes sense.
Aidan Power 10:10
So Dave, how much advice how much helps Did you get from Chadwicks? Because you clearly know you know what you want. And and you know a lot about what you're talking about right now, how much of a helper Chadwicks
Dave Moore 10:21
huge, because I'll be honest with you, and yeah, you're right, in the sense that I'm competent to do I love DIY, I love doing it. And I love you know, building things, and I'm competent and confident in my abilities to do it. But this was a brand new beast. To me, Look, I've put down decks like putting the deck down isn't something I would classes, particularly difficult, but doing it this way with the plastic pedestals the aluminium Joyce was a real challenge. And thankfully, I was able to call Chadwicks not just kind of during the the actual construction phase, but beforehand, get advice on, you know, how do these things work? You know, what are the what are the potential pitfalls or the little bits of knowledge that you really need to know, before you go into this, I was able to do that and talk to Chad was actually the group as well, who supplied the deck and White River group up in county level, and they were great as well. So between the two of them, I kind of felt going in like I knew, even though I'd never done it, I knew what I was facing into. And then it was simply a case of the practicalities of actually doing it. And I did a couple of times have to ring, you know, and ask questions or look for, you know, another piece of equipment or another piece of materials that I just didn't foresee at the beginning, that would make all the difference of a goddess and as always Chadwicks and some are able to come through it all that kind of stuff when I needed it. So and yeah, so it was great to be able to call on them and guess the advisor needed and also the kind of the the practicality of the actual materials and tools as well.
Aidan Power 11:54
Did you get any good jokes for your brilliant radio segment?
Dave Moore 11:59
Do you know what I actually rang at one point on a site on the Saturday when I was waiting on a delivery, and I ran to check something I got pulled through to the lads kind of in the warehousing area, whatever. And, like as far as I was concerned, they were just pulling through a customer they wouldn't know who Dave portmarnock was compared to anyone else. So I was chatting away to Lars and then he went here before he goes like yeah, and he went and he told me this crudest, most onbroad castable joke ever goes
Unknown Speaker 12:29
Unknown Speaker 12:32
for the rest of
Dave Moore 12:33
the project, how hilarious it was, but I can't even say it here on this podcast. So
Aidan Power 12:39
that's a shame. That's our last but customer service. Keep you laugh and keep you laughing. So job complete Mission complete, amazing job. Have you any more projects up your sleeve Dave? Yes, I
Dave Moore 12:52
have a few Actually, I mentioned that I built a kind of an outdoor room a playroom for the kids with a shed attached onto it in my own back garden. And I need another one but I don't have the room my own back garden. So I'm going to build another one in my mother's back garden has very kindly allowed me to take up some of the free space in her back garden. So I'll do that. And I also my wife is an artist and I'm going to be upgrading her studio. And it's it's kind of she she kind of the room was done. And then she decided to be an artist so it wasn't kind of purpose built for. So I'm going to take that room and just do it out laid out in a better way and and just make it a whole lot more beautiful than nice place to be. And then there's a big one Coleman I don't know when I get to do this, but I want to move an internal wall in the house, which is brave. I'm getting very brave, but that will require all new flooring. Our whole downstairs is one one wooden floor flows from like the hall through to the sitting room then out into the kitchen diner and all that kind of stuff. So it's a big job to re floor all that but I do want to do that.
Aidan Power 14:01
Dave that's also impressive. Now you're Jen for joining us, but you are staying with us because our pod quiz is coming up. So Dave for now. Thank you. We'll chat in a few minutes.
Unknown Speaker 14:09
Cheers, Fred Cheers.
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Aidan Power 14:24
Now each and every week on the podcast, we are looking for your jokes you can get in touch and send us a voice note with your favourite one on our WhatsApp number which you'll find in the show description and for our inaugural joke of the week. It's coming to us courtesy of john Flynn. JOHN is a carpenter from Dublin, but let's see if he's wooden or not take it away, john.
Unknown Speaker 14:43
So David is sitting at home. He gets a text message. The text message reads Hi Dave. This is Frank. I've got a confession to make. I've been messing around with your wife for the last two to three weeks. I'm really sorry. I'll be over in an hour. We'll have a chat about it. We'll see what we can do. Well, Dave gets very, very angry. And Dave gets a gong. And Dave walks over and he shoots his voice. I was able to stand up there, the text message comes in again. Hi, Dave. Sorry. autocorrect the manual WiFi.
Aidan Power 15:23
Wow, john. I didn't know where you're going with that. And I didn't expect that ending. Fred. You're the comedian. Once you think Oh, absolutely. You know, I've
Fred Cooke 15:30
been doing comedy. No, 15 years. I didn't see that one coming. Did you know No, no, no, it's like affairs and WiFi. I never would have put the two of them together like so. I'd say great delivery. And nice and quick as well. He got in there nice and quick. It didn't hang around too long to get to the punch line. And he wasn't afraid it's quite dark, and surprisingly dark but still worked. So I'd say I'd give it a six and a half out of 10. Okay, so
Aidan Power 16:00
each week Fred is going to raise our joke of the week whoever is top of the leaderboard will win their tool of dreams. We need we need a jingle for that. Fred. We need two and a half dreams. That is when you go into the Chadwick store. That thing you have wanted all your life, the tool of dreams will be yours. If you are top of Fred Cook's leaderboard what your joke of the week show john Flynn, congratulations being our first entrant you are currently top of the leaderboard with a score
Fred Cooke 16:30
of six and a half,
Aidan Power 16:32
six and a half. Not a bad start. If you would like your joke to be featured on the podcast. Remember, you can send it to us by voice note on WhatsApp. And you will get the number in the show description. And you could be on the next episode of under construction, which fabrics
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Aidan Power 16:53
Now joining us is Pat Moore. Pat is Chadwicks group category director with full purchasing responsibility. So Pat, first things first, the burning question is are you any relation to today of EMS? Dave? More?
Pat Moore 17:03
No, no, no relation. He'd be the he'll be glad to hear I'd say more so than me. And I just dropped into one of his Instagram Live shows last week by pure accident. So I'd say that's where this came. This came from but no, no relation.
Aidan Power 17:15
No relation. All right. Well, Pat, as I said, Your Chadwick, school category director, that gives you full purchasing responsibility. So does that mean everything we see on the on the shelves in the aisles in Chadwicks, you are responsible for being there?
Pat Moore 17:28
I'd love to say it is my responsibility Aiden but does not. I'm surrounded by a super a team of colleagues, both here in the support office and in the branches who are responsible of making sure the product is on the shelf for our customers. I just pull a few strings and someone said look pretty, I don't know about that. But that's what I try my best. Well, you're modest man, Pat. Now look, it's
Aidan Power 17:47
been a very challenging time for everyone in so many different ways. But in the construction industry, as things are cranking up post lockdown at one of the challenges you're facing, as far as
Pat Moore 17:56
it's very highlighted in the news at the moment construction sector is is seeing serious issues around material shortages, including timber, steel, insulation and roofing products. So on the back of that, and there's also a number of price increases coming true, which is makes it out to be the perfect storm. Really.
Aidan Power 18:14
What is the main reason for the supply shortages? Well, look,
Pat Moore 18:17
if we look at the different sectors from a timber perspective, we had issues earlier on last year in relation to licencing. And that has caused a problem boiler has been rectified, it still has left a backlog, and that backlog is yet to be cleared up. So that's caused a major problem on the native end, from an import from an important joe biden's injection of money into the US economy has caused serious problems for Europe. And all timber basically is moving from Europe into the US. And due to the cost of the raw material that they're prepared to pay. Also, then on from from Mr. perspective, the Chinese are eating up a lot of material that's gone in there. I think it's the highest imports in China for many, many years. That causes a problem for Europe and Ireland. And then you've got issues around plastic. So you guys have noticed No, it's plastic piping, the raw material for that has come under pressure because of it, believe it or not a storm in Texas. And again, the Americans are now looking to fill that gap. And they're important a lot of material from the from Europe to cover that gap.
Aidan Power 19:15
And as well as that pad, of course, we faced a pandemic. We've also had Brexit we had the Suez Canal blockage has that also played its part as well in the shortages. Yeah, each of those
Pat Moore 19:25
categories, I imagine have caused the problem more so the Chinese situation has come from shortages of containers due to the pandemic and shipped not travelling and people not moving. And so what that has meant is safe this time last year we would have been paying in the region of two and a half $1,000 for a container you're now paying $15,000 today, and that has put a lot of pressure on product coming out of China into into Ireland and the rest of Europe.
Aidan Power 19:47
Wow, that is a huge increase. So as a result of shortage prices are going up. And that's having a knock on effect on the customer, isn't it
Pat Moore 19:55
it is unlocked and it's To be fair, and it's not just a chat exposition. It's a lot of people In the sector hand dimensioning sector are doing their best to try and offset as many price increases as possible. But this is a global situation, it's not just an Irish situation or even a UK situation, the Americans are taking us into a lot of product that's already Chinese and that has really caused a lot of problems and it's putting a lot of pressure on pricing. So it's a lock it's a constant challenge for us and it's a constant challenge for our customers. But we are doing our best to try and offset as much as we can but we are in unprecedented times.
Aidan Power 20:25
Indeed now Pat, the outdoor living brochure is out and there's a lot of good stuff in it and there's plenty available isn't there
Pat Moore 20:31
is yeah locked out or leaving it to a new brochure for us and it's going very, very well. There's obviously just we feature the new decking with composite decking and Dan soft wood decking so it's, you know, it's there, we've got a fair bit of stock in the branches. So we'll get in and see the guys there they look after. We've also got a super range from concern on the paving side and walling side so locked has a lot to offer in there. Pat, thanks
Aidan Power 20:52
so much for joining us on the podcast all about No problem,
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Aidan Power 21:04
Now it's time for the pod quiz. This week's guest Dave more from today FM is going to play on behalf of the listener for a prize that is well fairly unique to say the least are Fred cook will not only compose but sing a song all about the listener in question. And they can use this for a variety of reasons including their voicemail show Dave more you're playing this week on behalf of Aiden Ryan, who's a plumber from Wicklow. Here's the rules. You've got one minute to get five questions right. And you'll be maybe delighted to know or scared that older questions have been set by your other radio half Mr. Dermott cleeland Oh God, the saving grace is your questions have a theme. And they are all on heavy metal.
Pat Moore 21:45
He knows nothing about that. What is he asking me?
Aidan Power 21:50
It's time to find out Fred. You're going to keep score. We're going to stick 60 seconds on the clock. Dave, are you ready? Yes, sir. Question one, when was heavy metal music first developed was a the late 60s and early 70s or be the late 70s and early 80s.
Dave Moore 22:07
Early 60s A our late 60s I mean a
Aidan Power 22:10
correct name the original lead singer from Iron Maiden.
Unknown Speaker 22:13
Dave Moore 22:14
the original lead singer. Pastor No, not Bruce Dickinson Paul diano. Paul Of course, question three
Aidan Power 22:21
rocky like a hurricane from the scorpions his song all about a wild night of lovemaking. But did the same song feature in the Justin Timberlake animated offering trolls World Tour did it Yes. Are you jumping in question for which famous front man took over singing jerseys for a short period of time in AC DC back in 2016?
Dave Moore 22:44
I don't know. I know nothing about AC DC.
Fred Cooke 22:48
Who would fill in who'd been who'd be who would have been best the best folk to singer to fill in at the time because he wasn't in his own band. JACK black. No, no,
Aidan Power 22:55
we're we're at a time and we can reveal the answer to that one and you may kick yourself it's Axl Rose. Ah, I had no idea.
Dave Moore 23:03
What do I know about
Fred Cooke 23:04
rock and roll? Well, David you've got two rights which get which is quite right.
Dave Moore 23:09
I apologise to Aiden the plumber vote I like I expected these to be questions about heavy metal and it was all about rock and roll as I'm where's my Slayer? Where's my deck? Where's my slipping off?
Aidan Power 23:19
Okay, how about we put it all on one question.
Unknown Speaker 23:23
Oh my gosh, you
Aidan Power 23:24
get this question? Right everything rides on this for Aiden the former
Dave Moore 23:26
Okay, okay, I'm gonna do it for you.
Aidan Power 23:29
Dave more after 37 years of recording and performing which American thrash metal band embarked on their farewell tour in 2018.
Dave Moore 23:40
Unknown Speaker 23:41
Pat Moore 23:47
I was there.
Aidan Power 23:48
I went to all the shows. I was there man when he saved it all on that question. And that means that Mr. Aiden Ryan our plumber gets a special song performed by Fred
Fred Cooke 24:02
you reach the vice Miller right for please. message and I get back given time on the busiest clover day and night. Somewhere in Wakefield is a broken pipes have come on, leave a message.
Aidan Power 24:21
For thank you so much for joining us on the
Dave Moore 24:22
podcast. lads. Thank you so much. What a pleasure. It's been lowered
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Aidan Power 24:39
Well thank you to Dave more from today FM to pat Moore from Chadwick's. No relation to Dave and to you for listening. We'll be back with another podcast next Monday. And to get it automatically just search under construction with Chadwicks wherever you get your podcast Fred, it's been fun for the first one that what are your final thoughts?
Fred Cooke 24:56
My final thought is eight and composite decking is the way to go. I learned that from a DJ
Aidan Power 25:04
what would we learn next week join us then for me Aiden power and Fred cook
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Date: 17th May 2021